"Below is a link to an excerpt from DN on the Israeli concentration camp called Gaza, listen to it and tell me how it differs from the daily life of German concentration camps.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/22/part_ii_palestinian_us_college_grad" - Dan
The difference is Gaza is 139 sq miles and is run by the Gazans. They get millions of dollars of aid and use some of the money to buy weapons to kill the Israeli. The Germans would have killed them all instantly if they were fired on by rockets inside a concentration camp. That you think there is a significant comparison means you either don't know what when on in most German concentration camps or you refuse to use any intelligence.
Monday, January 26, 2009
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Lets see they had a "vehicle" , his father had a cell phone, "I tried to contact the media, the BBC, the CNN. I contacted the Israeli journalist," "our farm is about 500 meters away from the borders", "Kassab was an architect. He graduated from the Islamic University and finally graduated in 2007." "Ibrahim was a freshman in college, in Al-Azhar University. He started studying commerce, and he was about to finish his first semester." " The hospital was about one kilometer away",
When you make the comparison that Gaza is like a Nazi concentration camp, it makes you look foolish.
Your point would have been better made if you said the the conflict is dehumanizing Israeli soldiers or the population. Many Islamists believe Jews are worst then dogs and they all should be killed. 70 years of Arab hostility towards Israelis would tend to dehumanize Israelis.
But to say Gazans, who have homes, farms and cars, are in the equivalent of Nazi concentration camp just make you look ignorant or anti-Jews.
I feel sorry for the innocent Gazans. But I also remember it was they who celebrated the 9/11 attacks. I remember that they have consistently refused to recognize Israeli right to exist. It is they who support Hamas and the firing of rockets, the kidnapping of Israelis, the murder of innocents. Everything they do is a war crime because they are unlawful combatants. The military wears uniforms to protect civilians. Hamas fights among civilians, using them has human shields.
So yes, some Israelis will do some awful stuff, and some of those will be prosecuted. But the Gazans are not blameless innocents.
You are either deliberately ignorant on the history of Israel or morally corrupt... only you know for sure but it is one of the two or a combination of both. I can't see any other reason why you would defend bombing and shooting innocent people most of them children. Why you would defend fascist nazi like treatment of innocent Palestinians by Israeli soldiers, just like you defended the killing and torture of Iraqis by our soldiers, remember Haditha and the pictures of naked bodies piled up at Abu Graib?
First of all it is totally normal that the Palestinians and their supporters do not recognize Israel's right to exist on the land that was stolen from them. All the Palestinians, Iranians, Arabs recognize Israel's right to exist in the USA or England but just not on their land. This is totally normal, if someone kicked you out of your house at gunpoint, then took over your house forcing you to live on the street, would you recognize that persons right to exist? Sure you would, but not in your house? That is exactly what this situation is all about? But because you keep yourself deliberately ignorant by refusing to watch DN you can no longer see the obvious.
Today we still don't really know what happened on 9/11, three buildings came down looking exactly like preplanned demolitions, only two buildings were hit by airplanes, the third building not even hit, contained records of criminal investigations into financial and corporate fraud worth trillions to the tax payer, all of a sudden poof gone up in smoke, that all seems quite strange to me. Our trillion dollar air defense system just happened to be down that day, at Cheney's orders, for military exercises, strange coincidence, Bin Laden would pick that day to attack .
You are really naive to accept all this without a truly independent investigation, which we've never had. Yet why shouldn't the arab world cheer 9/11 if they believed it was Bin Laden, it is perfectly normal to cheer when harm comes to those whom have imposed dictators on you, stolen your resources and persecuted you for decades.
Your comments prove you support the torture of innocents, the killing and maiming of children and injustice to those too weak and poor to defend themselves. Your comments prove it, go back and read them one by one. Your posts are only about criticizing the left which is trying to do some good and bring justice to this cruel world made cruel by a Republican party that has held on to power way too long.....your posts are all geared to bring back this Republican party to power, your complete lack of outrage to gross injustice and the suffering of innocent children around the world astound me, especially suffering directly resulting from our collective action in the quest for military dominance of oil and other resources. This is why you constantly say Global warming is a hoax because you don't want to see us energy independent with clean energy you want to have an excuse to bomb Iraqi children or Palestinian children because you reason that their destruction is justified because of our need for oil and our need for oil is more important because Americans are superior to other peoples.
You said
"Everything they do is a war crime because they are unlawful combatants."
This is fascist reasoning. This is like saying Palestinians have no right to defend themselves because they are unlawful and if they defend themselves they are committing war crimes.
Remember Israel broke the cease fire not Hamas, Hamas wanted to extend the cease fire , Israel refused those are the facts, the whole world knows those are the facts, that's why in the UN only two votes have constantly defended Israeli aggression and persecution of the Palestinians , our vote and Israel's vote...the rest of the World calls this a crime against humanity. The difference between you and me is you consider Americans superior to everyone else and I don't, I think we are all equal under the law, international law, including the Arabs, Africans, Europeans, Asians etc. we all have basic human rights not just Americans and Israelis. Until you understand that you will continue to support the war and human crimes against the Palestinians by the USA and Israel. If you refuse to watch DN and listen to Chomsky than you will remain deliberately ignorant and continue to support gross injustices around the world and in our own country. You sound exactly like Rush Limbaugh or Anne Coulter both of whom you've regularly and often praised, you can't see that everything they say his filled with hate and fascism...compare what they say to DN or Chomsky or Zinn and its obvious who's on the side of truth and good. Why is it so hard for you to see that????
The people involved in Abu Graib went to jail.
As for Hadita, "As of June 17, 2008, six defendants had their cases dropped and one was found not guilty. The exception is SSgt. Wuterich, whose trial date has been postponed. At least three officers have been officially reprimanded for failing to properly initially report and investigate the killings."
Your beliefs on 9/11 despite all the facts just shows how warped your thinking has become. It should give you pause and you should examine all your assumptions. It shows that you hate the U.S./Bush so much that you warp the facts to fit your ideology.
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