Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Liberty

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." Thomas Jefferson Paris, November 13, 1787

Will the leaders of the Democratic Party become tyrants?
Posted by Common Sense Joe at 4:52 PM

6 comments:

dan said...

There's a lot you are ignorant about concerning the revolutionary war, not your fault, our educational system is at fault, yet listen to this and tell me if you still believe in war, even the so called "good wars" after you hear this.

http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2010/1/8/howard_zinn_three_holy_wars

January 20, 2010 at 8:46 AM
Common Sense Joe said...

Just proves what a nut Zinn is.

January 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM
Common Sense Joe said...

I feel sorry for his education. Maybe he didn't pay attention in class or never read a book.

January 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM
Common Sense Joe said...

After wasting 20 minutes of my life listening to him, I wish I had a transcript. That Zinn would evaluate the importance of the Revolutionary war on the basis of rich officers and poor privates just shows how off-base his analysis is. War is hell, yes. But would you rather be under British rule?

January 20, 2010 at 3:53 PM
dan said...

You obviously didn't understand what he was saying , listen to it again, for example Canada is not under British rule and they didn't fight a revolutionary war... the point Zinn makes is that war works only for the rich the poor get nothing out of it except death and suffering and they do most of the fighting and take all the risks. You should not feel sorry for his education but rather your own, not your fault back then since your teachers were brainwashed too, but it is your fault now since you now deliberately keep yourself ignorant by not reading Zinn or Rawls or watching Democracy Now etc.

January 21, 2010 at 2:17 PM
Common Sense Joe said...

I feel sorry for his education because I knew those facts he said he didn't learn even in graduate school.

Without the U.S. War of Independence, France may never have had it's Revolution. The Louisiana Territory may never been bought and the U.S. would have dissolved into Northern Free States and Southern Slaves States.

While Zinn focuses on difference between rich and poor gains in war, he doesn't recognize that the poor in the U.S. are a lot better off than the poor in other parts of the world. Zinn focuses on the mirco-economics of war, not the macro-economics and political aspects of war.

January 22, 2010 at 1:31 PM

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